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ΧΑΙΡΕ ΖΕΥ Hail Zeus Wake up Mediterranean and Medish Greeks, Northerners steal your ancestors and present them as Scandinavian Nordic invaders coming from Ukraine-Russian steppes. As for modern Greeks, they propagate they are dark skinned gypsies and hellenized natives. Nordicism is one of Greece's worst enemies.

THE 12 HELLENIC MEDITERRANEAN ’GODS’!!!

The 13th ’God’, Zeus' brother.

From original ancient Greek Athenian-Attican and Apullian amphoras, kylikes, stamnos, Kraters and Lekythos. Better Holywood use actors with such pigmentation and with such physical characteristics than northerners, In case they want to show a real image of ancient Greece... else they are nothing more than Nordicists, similar to Nazis.

After reading the nordicist garbage and ridiculous anti-southeast european propaganda of the Nazi Metapedia... "The Greeks or Hellenes were a Nordish Indo-European people who subjugated the Pelasgians in the 3rd millenium BC." "An exhaustive overview of the physiognomy of the Indo-European Greeks as blonde haired, light skinned and blue/gray eyed". "It has been estimated that the Indo-European population size in ancient Greece was as low as 7% (Day, 2001)." http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Greeks "Greeks: Eu 59% (Rb1 17%, Ra1 28%, I1 14%), Neu 41%"). "...other non-white human populations (in the next list added together as non-European: Neu)." http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Genomic_Europeanism

An answer by a "kamerad" of them. "Well, as regards the nonsense of 59% European haplogroups in Greeks, here is the proof of the contrary. According to the genetic site eupedia.com: Northern Greeks(Thrace & Macedonia) : 93,7 % European Central Greeks(Epirus & Thessaly) : 92,2 % European Southern Greeks(Sterea Hellas & Peloponnese) : 93,9 % European Eastern Greeks(Aegean islands & Ionia) : 91,7% European Cretan Greeks(Crete) : 91,1 % European All Greeks : 93,4 % European" https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t994640-13/?postcount=126#post11562743 http://www.eupedia.com/forum/printthread.php?t=26644&pp=25&page=1 And another source: Greeks genetically Greek(full Greek only): European 87.6%, Middle Eastern 12.4%. Sub-Saharan African, Northeast African, South Asian, East Asian, North Asian, Native American 0.0%. DNA Tribes® SNP Admixture Results by Population http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2012-08-01.pdf Ancient Mediterranean Hellenes and typical examples of six non-tanned Hellenic Classic Meds

(1)Rectangular faced-wavy haired, (2)Oval faced-straight haired, (3)Rectangular faced-straight haired.

(1)Rectangular faced-wavy haired, (2)Oval faced-straight haired, (3)Rectangular faced-straight haired. The Hellenic ideal couple (Mediterranean)

Untanned/Tanned Greek Mediterraneans.

Composite Greeks: the Ancient and the Modern http://dienekes.awardspace.com/pictures/composites/ Indo-European Origins in Southeast Europe http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/ieorigins/

ANTHROPOLOGICAL EVIDENCE "Early anthropologists commonly believed that the Hellenes belonged principally to the Mediterranean(a) race. This was the view shared by Sergi [1] and Ripley [2]. In a more recent study of the problem of Race, John R. Baker in [5] says that later studies “do not appear to have disproved” these views." http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/ The basic element of Greece is the Mediterranean. Usually Greeks either are pure Mediterraneans or mixed Mediterraneans, Med-Alpines, Med-Dinarics, Med-Cromagnoids, Meds with central or northern European admixture, Med-Orientalids, Med-Armenoids. Most Greeks are either pure Hellenes(Mediterraneans) or have a Greek inside them(mixed Mediterraneans). Very rarely a Greek is a pure Alpine, Dinaric etc. And since Nordics according to physical racial Anthropology are "depigmented Mediterraneans" there is great probability they are mutated Hellenes, or that we just came from the same source. THE MEDITERRANEAN RACE, THE GREATEST RACE OF THE WORLD. "According to Sergi(Italian Anthopologist), the Mediterranean race was the "greatest race of the world" and was singularly responsible for the most accomplished civilizations of antiquity, including those of Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient Persia, Ancient Rome, Carthage, Hittite Anatolia, Land of Punt, Mesopotamia and Phoenicia." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_race#20th_century THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDITERRANEANS AND NORDICS. NORDICS ARE NOT SIMILAR TO ANCIENT GREEKS, BUT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OFFSPRINGS OF UNCIVILIZED BARBARIANS.

Med Apollon, Greek-Hypervorean god of light VS 3rd reich supposed "Aryan Nord". "Another stab to the Nordicist doctrine are the actual sculptures of ancient Greece. When looking at classical sculpture one sees a very Mediterranean people. Straight or wavy thick hair, low smooth foreheads, fleshy faces, round chins, a somewhat broad face, a large fleshy straight nose, full lips as well as almond shaped eyes are seen among the beautiful sculptures of the Greeks. These descriptions would never be taken to characterize someone of Germanic decent. Germanic or Nordic men are defined as having sharp angular features; thin straight noses, many ending in an upturned point, high cheek bones, thin lips, high mounded foreheads, fine straight blond hair, and eyes that are more round then almond in shape. Germanic men are seen as having sharp, hard faces, whereas the ancient Greeks have a much rounder, fuller, softer face. When looking at Greek sculpture one would never take its subjects to be Germanic, but instantly recognize them as Greek." http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/84/hellenic-mediterraneans-non-nordics "The Nordic element is weak, as it probably has been since the days of Homer." Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist) www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm Northerners were uncivilized barbarians who civilized by the Medish/Southerner Romans and Byzantines.

Ancient Hellenes mainly were Medish/Southerner people.

Ancient Greek pottery depicting Greeks as dark haired/dark eyed Mediterraneans: https://www.theoi.com/ Zeus

EAST MEDS(in Greece's case)= AEGEAN-MEDITERRANIDS THE FIRST CIVILIZED EUROPEANS Minoan Cretans

Cycladic islanders

Mycenaean mainlanders

Ionian/Asia Minor Hellenes

Athenian mainlanders

Compared to them, back then, rest Europeans looked more like erectus or neanderthal... speaking of superiority. No wonder for males reddish/brownish/black skin color, they are naturally white skinned(see the women), just depicted sun-tanned or it's something artistic, but some people can't get that. Let them band about "swarthies"... Byzantines/Eastern Romans= Christinized Ionians/Aeolians/Dorians and later Islander and Mainland Hellenes.

East Mediterranids according to "humanphenotypes". (South-East Europeans/Southern-Pontids)

This racial type, indigenous in Greece, dubbed by the German pseudo-anthropologist of "humanphenotypes" as "East Med" and falsely claimed to be a "Middle Eastern type", is more common in Aegean islands, Ionian islands, southern Greece and to Asia Minor Greeks, it's also common in south Italy. This racial type called by the Greek Anthropologist Aris Poulianos as Aegean Mediterranean and classified as the south-east branch of the Europaeoid race. Which means, it's European. http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/24/updated-origin-hellenes-aris-poulianos They are the proto-Aryans, the first civilized Europeans who made the first European civilizations in the Aegean basin. As Neolithic farmers they spread agriculture, stock breeding and first signs of civilization to the hunter gatherers Paleolithic Europeans, all European Mediterraneans and Mediterranoids(Pontids, Atlanto-Meds, Atlantids etc) descend from them and so the mutated depigmented Mediterranids, the Nordics. Early farmers from across Europe directly descended from Neolithic Aegeans http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2015/11/neolithic-farmers-from-greece-and.html Indo-European Origins in Southeast Europe http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/ieorigins/ Also genetically groups of people who mainly belong to this racial type, like Cretans and Asia Minor Greeks are close genetically to the rest Aegean islanders, south Italians, mainland Greeks and Balkanians and far away from Turks and Levantines.

The source of the Mediterranean race is south Europe, the biggest amount of mediterranean admixture concentrates there. This is where the Euro-Mediterranean race was formed and from where it spread everywhere. ANTHROPOLOGICAL EVIDENCE "Early anthropologists commonly believed that the Hellenes belonged principally to the Mediterranean(a) race. This was the view shared by Sergi [1] and Ripley [2]. In a more recent study of the problem of Race, John R. Baker in [5] says that later studies “do not appear to have disproved” these views." http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/ Mediterranean admixture in Scandinavia (Sweden)

Ranging from 5-10% in mainland to 15-20% at the south. Middle Easterners(Orientalids: Iranids, Arabids)

North Africans(Saharids, Aegyptids)

Compared to Middle Easterners and North Africans, European East Meds are lighter(white skinned, but often sun-tanned) and have different facial features, south-east European. Genetically European East Meds(see Greek islanders, Anatolian Greeks etc.) are overwhelmingly Europeans and close genetically to south Italians and Balkanians. A lot have been said about Greek Mediterraneans, now let's show the other prevalent racial type of Greece, from ancient to modern times, the Continentals= Balkan Alpines/Alpino-Mediterraneans.

Southeastern Alpine:

"A Greek from Sparta. In Greece it is frequently blended with a local tall Mediterranean strain." Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist). Dinarics= Balkano-Caucasians can be found among Greeks, mostly in form of Dinaroids= Dinaricized Mediterraneans, Dinaricized Alpines etc. Pure Dinarics are rare among Greeks.

"The Greeks, in short, are a blend of racial types, of which two are most important; the Atlanto-Mediterranean and the Alpine. Dinaricisrn here is present, but not all pervading; true Alpines are commoner than complete Dinarics." Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist). Northern admixed Greeks. Usually in form of light brown haired and/or light-mixed eyed individuals with Central European admixture.

Northwest European admixture: 10-15% all of Greece, 15-20% North-West Greece.

East European admixture: 5-10% Aegean islands, 10-15% mainland Greece, 15-20% North-East Greece.

RARE TYPES: Nordics and Nordoids(usually blond Med-Nords) can be found in Greece. According to Anthropologist Aris Poulianos 4-7%(from area to area) belong to the "Northern-European type" and according to Carleton Coon 5% of Greeks are blond and this blondism is mostly Nordic in origin.

"The Nordic element is weak, as it probably has been since the days of Homer." Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist) Northern European eyes.

Cromagnoids can be found in Greece, mostly in form of Cromagnon-Mediterraneans but usually taxonomized by the Anthropologists as Mediterraneans.

Naturally darkskinned Greeks(usually with light brown skin color). Med-Anatolian Orientaloids. According to Anthropologist Aris Poulianos 10% of Greeks have such pigmentation. What Nordicists mean by calling someone "swarthy".

2-3% of Greeks are Armenoids/Anatolids and Caucasids/Mtebids(Dinaric-Armenoids). Usually some Pontians(Greeks from Anatolia-Caucasus) and less Asian Minor/Anatolian Greeks, Islanders and mainland Greeks.

Racial Anthropology proves 100% racial continuity in Greece for at least 4,000 years. THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE(by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki): Theories of origin of the Greeks • The theory of Indo-European origin of the Greeks, based on linguistic analysis and comparisons with no archaeological or other evidence. Comparative linguists are the main supporters. In Rello5, despite the wide dissemination, this theory is not based on solid sources, and must be rejected. • The theory of indigenous, which is supported by the ancient Greeks themselves. The main exponent of this theory is Professor Colin Renfrew6. "The most important conclusion is that the DNA of the Greeks is heavily indigenous, something that has been proposed by Professor Renfrew6 and verified by modern molecular genetic analysis." http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece "It is inaccurate to say that the modern Greeks are different physically from the ancient Greeks; such a statement is based on an ignorance of the Greek ethnic character." "It is my personal reaction to the living Greeks that their continuity with their ancestors of the ancient world is remarkable, rather than the opposite." www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm "The modern inhabitants of Greece itself differ surprisingly little from their classical predecessors." www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-V4.htm Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist) "J. Lawrence Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.”" "Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”"

"Finally, a more recent statistical comparison of ancient and modern Greek skulls resulted in the discovery of “a remarkable similarity in craniofacial morphology between modern and ancient Greeks.”" dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/ "Poulianos’ conclusions of Greek continuity are not simply the wishful thinking of a modern Greek. In a critical review of his book , J. Lawrence Angel states that “Poulianos is correct in pointing out ... that there is complete continuity genetically from ancient to modern times.”" dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/ "In conclusion, it seems that the ancient Greeks were Mediterraneans, Cromagnoids, Alpines and Dinarics with fluctuations in percentage composition." "Robert Charles admit that the physiognomy of the Greek population has remained largely the same over the centuries and the Greeks are descendants of the ancient Greeks and not a mixture of medieval invaders, such as Avars, Franks, Turks, Venetians. That is to say, Charles finds racial continuity to Greeks, considering however that originally they belong to these four specific racial types." Robert Charles(French Anthropologist) http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/198/racial-composition-ancient-greece-charles A comparative cephalometric investigation of the Greek craniofacial pattern through 4,000 years. "A comparative cephalometric investigation was conducted between modern and ancient Greeks to determine craniofacial characteristics and to examine the significance of ethnic heritage. The modern sample was composed of 54 individuals chosen on the basis of ethnic background, normal occlusion and facial harmony. The ancient sample consisted of 40 skulls with normal occlusion dated back to the Minoan civilization (ca. 1,800-1,200 B.C.). A remarkable similarity in craniofacial morphology was revealed between the two groups, suggesting a close genetic affinity between modern and ancient Greeks. The ability of the craniofacial complex to make compensatory or balancing changes was noted. The craniofacial complex was seen to function as an integrated biological entity. Moreover, the cranial base showed a definite influence on skeletal profile configuration. These results provide a more comprehensive understanding of how craniofacial variables interact and contribute to the morphology of the dentofacial skeleton." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2672905 The whole study: http://www.smilesareus.gr/page61.php "An overall view of the findings obtained from these cephalometric analyses indicates that the Greek ethnic group has remained genetically stable in its cephalic and facial morphology for the last 4,000 years." The article: http://www.angle.org/doi/pdf/10.1043/0003-3219%281989%29059%3C0195%3AACCIOT%3E2.0.CO%3B2 OUR FACIAL FEATURES ARE HELLENIC!!! A Mediterranean-Dinaric racial type, existing in Greece at least since the Neolithic & Early Hellenistic period, after J.L. Angel(American Anthropologist). http://majorityrights.com/images/uploads/angel_hesperia.gif

Tanned..........................Natural skin colour. http://web.archive.org/web/20110719085015/http://racialreality.110mb.com/skincolor.html Sun tanning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Sun tanning or simply tanning is the process whereby skin color is darkened or tanned. The process is most often a result of exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun or from artificial sources, such as a tanning bed. People who deliberately tan their skin by exposure to the sun engage in sun bathing. Some people tan or sunburn more easily than others. This may be the result of different skin types and natural skin color, and these may be a result of genetics. Melanin is produced by cells called melanocytes in a process called melanogenesis. Melanocytes produce two types of melanin: pheomelanin (red) and eumelanin (very dark brown)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_tanning

In summer

In winter "THE 90% OF THE PERSONS WE STUDIED(3.000 GREEKS FROM ALL OVER GREECE AND 3.000 CRETANS AND OTHER AEGEANS) HAVE WHITE SKIN COLOR. RARELY SOMEONE MEETS DARK SKIN COLOR(NATURAL) AND EVEN MORE RARELY VERY DARK SKIN COLOR. VERY LIGHT SKIN COLOR IS MET MORE OFTEN THAN DARK SKIN COLOR." Aris Poulianos(Anthropologist/Paleoanthropologist). "The origin of the Greeks", page 69, year 2001. Lothrop Stoddard World Race Map: RED IS WHITE

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lothrop_Stoddard

Tanned/non-tanned Nord

Even more... Swedish women in Cyprus.

Tanned Nazi (Lol, the third Reich loved tanned nazi posters!!!) Greeks genetically Greek(full Greek only): European 87.6%, Middle Eastern 12.4%. Sub-Saharan African, Northeast African, South Asian, East Asian, North Asian, Native American 0.0%. DNA Tribes® SNP Admixture Results by Population http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2012-08-01.pdf Greek haplogroups are so European as of other Europeans "Greeks belong to the clade J2f1 (5ky), which considered that first appeared in the Aegean region and participated in the Greek colonization and the clade J2e (4ky), which is common in Greece and Albania and also considered to have origins in the southern Balkans." "Greeks belong to the genetic cluster E-M78a which is Greek and southern Balkanian." http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/greeknry/indexgr.html E1b1b(mutagenized E-V13) & J2 haplogroups can be found in Greece since Neolithic times(7,000 years BC), have been Europeanized and are completely Hellenic. http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/41/european-greek-haplogroups R1b & R1a haplogroups came in Europe from ASIA and I1 haplogroup from the MIDDLE EAST. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA) http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M420 http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml Greeks Cluster Genetically (ONLY) with other Europeans Conclusions from the studies using multiple autosomal gene markers: •Greeks cluster genetically with 41 other Europeans populations tested [49]. •Greeks cluster with other South European (like Italians) and North-European populations and are close to the Basques [48] (FIG. 25). • Greeks grouped with other European and Mediterranean populations [47,51], (FIG. 22, FIG. 23). •Greeks are some of the earliest contributors of genetic material to the rest of the Europeans as they are one of the oldest populations in Europe [54]. •Greeks are closest to Italians, Romanians (small sample size) and Former Yugoslavians [52], and to Albanians, southern Balkan Slavs and Bulgarians [53] (FIG. 26). Christos Karatzios, Stephen G. Miller, Costas D. Triantaphyllidis. http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/92/greeks-cluster-genetically-europeans GREEKS DO NOT CLUSTER GENETICALLY WITH NEAR EASTERNERS=TURKS, SYRIANS, LEBANESE, JORDANIANS AND (oriental)JEWS. ON THE CONTRARY, NEAR EASTERNERS ARE MIXED WITH GREEKS THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki): • The Neolithic human populations were moved from Europe to the Near East9. It is estimated that a 5% -20% of mitochondrial DNA sequences of the present inhabitants of the Near East has a European origin. Prospective population for this flow mitochondrial DNA are the Greeks and Phrygians. http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece Genetics for Greeks http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/42/updated-genetics-greeks A study of Stanford(USA) & Pavia(Italy) universities "With 400 years of (Turkish)slavery we expected that there would be some Mongolian signature. It does not found something like that and I don't just talk of one study, I'm talking about results of 7 more studies, of various researchers who get this result. Specifically, in 925 samples of Greek men, show that only 0.4% of Greeks are not Caucasians. This does not change with anything. The Greeks are Caucasian race". http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/70/updated-dna-greeks-clean GREEKS ARE NOT MIXED WITH TURKS, AT ALL. THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki): "The Greeks at a rate of 99.5% are Caucasians (white). The contribution to the genetic makeup of the Greeks from other groups (blacks or Mongolians) is of a minimal percentage (less than 0.5%)." GREEKS ARE NOT MIXED WITH ANY BLACKS OR MONGOLIANS. "The DNA of the Greeks has the following origin: 8% in recent years (about 3,000 years from now), 20% during the Neolithic period (9000-3000), 44% in the last upper Paleolithic era ( 14500-9000), 14.5% on average over the Paleolithic era (26,000 to 14,500 years) and a 11% in the original upper Paleolithic era (45.500 -26.000)." THE GREEK DNA HAS NOT CHANGED OVER THE LAST 3,000 YEARS. GREEKS ARE GREEKS ACCORDING TO GENETICS. http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece

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Nordicists claim the aristocracy of ancient Greeks was Nordic/blond just by using Homeric descriptions of the Iliad and Odyssey about some heroes and Gods. Besides that Homer had not live at the times of the trojan war and was a blind man who could not even see anybody, he didn't use "xantho" to describe the scandinavian-blond but anything lighter than dark brown/black haired, he used such color descriptions to raise interest of readers/listeners, as such colors always were rare among ancient Greeks and all south Europeans in general. Also there is case these color descriptions not to be even Homer's descriptions, as these two poems according to many scholars survived by oral tradition and everyone could add anything he liked. Anyway, Iliad and Odyssey are poems that combine history with fantasy and cannot be taken as serious sources about hair pigmentation of Greek aristocracy. What Nordicists never refer though is that the ones who described as xanthoi in these poems depicted in ancient Greek art pottery mostly as dark haired. ACHILLES

MENELAUS

HELEN

APHRODITE

ATHENA

DEMETER

Nordicists mention that the Greek poet Apollonius Rhodius described the hero Jason, and all Argonauts, as blond-haired. The Argonautica written by Apollonius Rhodius in the 3rd century BC. He neither lived at the age of the Argonauts, nor saw any Argonaut with his own eyes, ever. Once again the Argonautica is a poem which combines mythology with fantasy and cannot by taken seriously concerning hair color pigmentation of mythological Argonauts. In art pottery the Argonauts depicted as dark-haired though. ARGONAUTS

JASON

HERCULES

THESEUS

ORPHEUS

Some others claimed by Nordicists they were Nordic/blond, while depicted as dark haired. ORESTES

ARIADNE

ADONIS AND APHRODITE

ALCIBIADES

Pottery depictions mainly took from this link:http://www.theoi.com/Encyc_A.html

Zeus with his two eagles, called the figure of “Destiny”, located in Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington D.C.

Statue of liberty(New York)/Apollon God of Light(Corinthos' museum) BATTLE AGAINST TITANS

BATTLE AGAINST GIANTS

German Nazis.

"This reference population is based on samples collected from people native to Germany. The dominant 46% Northern European component likely reflects the earliest settlers in Europe, hunter-gatherers who arrived there more than 35,000 years ago. The 36% Mediterranean and 17% Southwest Asian percentages probably arrived later, with the spread of agriculture from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East over the past 10,000 years. As these early farmers moved into Europe, they spread their genetic patterns as well. Today, northern and central European populations retain links to both the earliest Europeans and these later migrants from the Middle East." https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/overview-of-regions-and-closest-populations/reference-populations/

Adolf Hitler, the Austrian monster, responsible for the death of million innocent europeans(of Germans too). Austrians propagandize that Greeks look more like that:

First of all, the "debt" is owed to the Zionist-bankers of EU.

The Zionist-Jew bankers along with the German goverment and the EU drink our blood like vampires.

NORTHERN EUROPEANS (Photos below: Germans)

With visible Mongoloid features.

Even Hitler had Mongoloid features.

Haplogroup N-M231 "Its highest frequency occurs among the Finnic and Baltic peoples of northern Europe, the Ob-Ugric and Northern Samoyedic peoples of western Siberia, and the Siberian Turkic-speaking Yakuts (McDonald 2005). It is also carried by about 10% to 20% of Russians (Malyarchuk 2004)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N-M231

Haplogroup N (Y-DNA) "N is found among Uralic speakers, from Finland to Siberia, and at minor frequencies as far as Korea and Japan." "Haplogroup N is believed to have originated in Southeast Asia approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years ago, but the N1c1 subclade found in Europe likely arose in Southern Siberia circa 10,000 years ago, and spread to North-East Europe 6,000 years ago." "Haplogroup N1c1 is approximately 10 000 years old and has higher average frequency in Northern Europe than in Siberia." https://www.familytreedna.com/public/n1c1/default.aspx?section=results http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

"Haplogroup Q is found predominantly in Central Siberia, Central Asia and among Native Americans." "Haplogroup Q is thought to have originated in Central Asia or North Asia during of shortly after the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, 26,000 to 19,000 years ago)." "In Europe, haplogroup Q1a is believed to have been brought by the Huns, the Mongols and the Turks, who all originated in the Altai region and around modern Mongolia." "Gotaland and Gotland in southern Sweden now have the highest frequency of haplogroup Q in Europe (5%) and almost all of it belong to the Q1a2b1 (L527) subclade. The Romans reported that the Huns consisted of a small ruling elite and their armies comprised mostly of Germanic warriors." http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml Scandinavians are far from being "homogeneous" or "pure"(see videos to the link below): http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/214/scandinavians-far-homogeneous-pure And many of these Northern Europeans who are not Mongoloids are not even whiteskinned(=pale), they are often redskinned.

And since Nordicist and Nazi trolls like to call Greeks and other south-europeans as "gypsies"... Typical gypsies(naturally brown-skinned)

...and typical blond-gypsies(xanthogyftoi) From North-Western Europe.

Greece and Bulgaria.

Similar to nordics.

Γιά να δούμε τι έλεγαν μία φορά και έναν καιρό και οι Σοσιαλιστές...

Σήμερα τι έγινε, τα ξέχασαν, ΟΧΙ, απλώς υπηρετούνε τον διεθνή Σιωνισμό και αποκαλούν και από πάνω οι συκοφάντες όποιον αντιστέκεται ως "ρατσιστή" εξισώνοντας τον με τον Χίτλερ, την Κου Κλουξ Κλαν και τους δουλέμπορους που πέρασαν αλυσίδες στους μαύρους και τους πήγαν στην Αμερική για σκλάβους, επειδή αρνείται να μπασταρδευτεί με νέγρους και πακιστανούς!!!

Μην πιστεύεται τα ψέματα τους!!! Ελληνοποιούν χιλιάδες λαθρομετανάστες, θέλουν να μας μπασταρδέψουν. ΚΡΑΤΗΘΕΙΤΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ!!! Όπως είπε και ο Θεόδωρος Κολοκοτρώνης, όταν έμαθε ότι ο Ιμπραήμ ήθελε να αντικαταστήσει τον πληθυσμό της Πελοποννήσου με Αιγυπτίους: "ΓΙΑ ΤΟ ΓΕΝΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ!!!" όπως είπε και αυτό: "Εις τον τόπον, τον οποίον κατοικούμε, εκατοικούσαν οι παλαιοί Έλληνες, από τους οποίους και ημείς καταγόμεθα και ελάβαμε το όνομα τούτο.Οι παλαιοί Έλληνες, οι πρόγονοί μας, έπεσαν εις την διχόνοια και ετρώγονταν μεταξύ τους, και έτσι έλαβαν καιρό πρώτα οι Ρωμαίοι, έπειτα άλλοι βάρβαροι και τους υπόταξαν." Ομιλία προς τους Γυμνασιόπαιδες στην Πνύκα. Σώστε το Ελληνικό γένος απ'το προσχεδιασμένο μπαστάρδεμα του με αλλόφυλους λαθρεποίκους.

Racial friends and racial enemies (All photos are of Greeks) Group A

(1)Rectangular faced-wavy dark haired, (2)Oval faced-straight dark haired, (3)Rectangular faced-straight light haired. Group B

(1)Rectangular faced-wavy light haired, (2)Oval faced-straight light haired, (3)Rectangular faced-straight dark haired. I have come to the conclusion that often each persons of its group shows hostility to each person of the other group. Think, how many times each racial type of the above have stand against you in your life and how many times you have face a problem because of him. There are exceptions of course, but the exceptions proves the rule. There are racial friends and racial enemies(note: there are bad persons to all groups). The aforementioned applies to males only. That's what race mixing between Meds/Southerners and Nords/Northerners brings... wars... but also alliances and strong friendships. Same goes for all other groups and people, redheads, Alpines, Dinarics etc. Almost half of Greek women are dyed blondes(especially in Athens), as they influenced by American lifestyle and hollywood...

Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfxu6TtdanM Same goes for British women. http://racialreality.blogspot.gr/2011/10/most-british-blondes-are-fake.html Using the Fischer-Scale(used in physical anthropology and medicine to determine the shades of hair color.) Only 1% of Greek women have natural blond hairs: Blond 0,88%, Very Blond 0,13%-0,00%. Aris Poulianos "The origin of the Hellenes", page 112. http://i.imgur.com/e6wwpXI.jpg And only 2% of Greek men have blond hairs: Blond 1,98%, Very Blond 0,01%-0,06%. Aris Poulianos "The origin of the Hellenes", page 108 http://i.imgur.com/nJygaLp.jpg In total, only 3% of Greeks have natural Blond hairs!!! Brunette is the Hellenic representative.

HELLAS IS DESTINED TO LIVE AND SHALL LIVE!!! Greeks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Identity "The terms used to define Greekness have varied throughout history but were never limited or completely identified with membership to a Greek state.[115] By Western standards, the term Greeks has traditionally referred to any native speakers of the Greek language, whether Mycenaean, Byzantine or modern Greek.[101][116] Byzantine Greeks called themselves Romioi and considered themselves the political heirs of Rome, but at least by the 12th century a growing number of those educated, deemed themselves the heirs of ancient Greece as well, although for most of the Greek speakers, "Hellene" still meant pagan.[117]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks Names of the Greeks "By Late Antiquity (c. 3rd–7th century CE), the Greeks referred to themselves as Graikoi (Γραικοί, "Greeks") and Rhomaioi/Romioi (Ρωμαϊοι/Ρωμιοί, "Romans") the latter of which was used since virtually all Greeks were Roman citizens after 212 CE. The term "Hellene" became applied to the followers of the polytheistic ("pagan") religion after the establishment of Christianity by Theodosius I." Romans (Ρωμαϊοι) "Romans or Rhomaioi (Ρωμαϊοι; sg. Ρωμαίoς Rhomaios) and Romioi (Ρωμιοί; sg. Ρωμιός Romios), is the name by which the Greeks were known in the Middle Ages and during Ottoman rule." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Greeks Modern "While most Greeks today are descended from Greek-speaking Romioi, there are "sizeable" groups of ethnic Greeks who trace their descent to Aromanian-speaking Vlachs, "Albanian"-speaking Arvanites, Slavophones, Armenians, Georgians, and Turkish-speaking Karamanlides.[112][113]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks Arvanites= Hellenes, descendants of ancient Greek north Epirotes(bilinguals, they spoke both Greek and the Arvanite idiom). Greek Vlachs= Hellenes, descendants of ancient Greek Macedonians(bilinguals, they always spoke both Greek and the Vlachic idiom= Latinized Macedonian). Greek Slavophones(of Greek Macedonia)= Hellenes, descendants of ancient Greek Macedonians(bilinguals, they always spoke Greek and the Slavic idiom, which by the way has double Homeric words than modern Greek language). Greek Turkophone Karamanlides=Hellenes, descendants of ancient Greek Cappadocians(they spoke Turkish and used the Greek alphabet). Medieval Slav invaders= Slaughtered most of them by the Byzantine army, their leaders transferred to Contantinoupolis and the few Slavs who survived transferred to Asia Minor, a tiny minority only of them assimilated in Greece. The Greek state officiallly do not recognize the existence of any non-Greek groups of people in Greece, neither of any minorities. Real Greek patriots stand against anti-Hellenic Nazism/Nordicism, Zionism and Communism.

All trash, degeneration and barbarity nowadays comes from the West. Avoid relations with the West. Stop Xenomania. Hellenism represent the highest effort that a human being ever did in whole human history.

The Turks

Serdar Ortac(Turkish singer)

The Turks genetically are 15%(or even more) Asians, the average Turk is at least 7% a Mongolian, while the Greeks have zero Mongol genes, 0,2%. Genetic ancestry of Turks: 45% Middle Eastern, 40% European and 15% Central Asian http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/anatolian-turks.html http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2011.00701.x/abstract In case Greeks were mixed with Turks they ought to be more Mongoloids, but they are not, thus Greeks are not mixed with Turks, at all.

Mixed(in a small percentage) with ancient Armenoid and Orientalid Anatolians, like Italians are, yes. Mixed with modern Turks, no, never. Greeks and Turks do not cluster genetically.

Most Turks phenotypically are Armenoids(composite). Turks are Armenoids(Racial maps): http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/220/racial-maps-turks-armenoids

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ANATOLID The prevalent Armenoid racial type of Turkey almost do not exist in Greece(and same goes for rest of Balkans), that's one of the main differences between Greeks and Turks. Turks are usually Armenoids while most Greeks are Mediterraneans and Alpines. Near Easterners/Levantines are also mostly Armenoids(in combination with Iranids/Orientalids/Brown Skinned Middle Easterners and Euro-Mediterranean Aegean Mediterranids/East-Mediterraneans). The only Greeks who have some Near Eastern/Levantine influence are Greek Cypriots and Greek Pontians have some Caucasian/Western Asian. Nothing racistic towards West-Asian-Anatolids though, as once they considered "Aryans" "The Aryan race was a racial grouping commonly used in the period of the late 19th century to the mid 20th century to describe peoples of European and Western Asian heritage." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race ...Lol, even Dinarics are similar to Anatolid-Armenoids(internet-classifiers often confuse them!): "Carleton S. Coon wrote that the Armenoid racial type is very similar to the Dinaric race." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenoid_race "The Asiatic Dinarics, who appeared early in the Metal Age, were apparently Alpine-Cappadocian hybrids; many of those went to Europe and settled in widely separated places, including sections of the Dinaric Alps. The exaggerated Dinaric type of Albania, with its tendency to light brown eye color may conceivably be derived from this source. It is also to be found in considerable numbers in the Tyrol." "Dinaricism is not a quality pertaining to a single race, it is a condition. This condition is common in Europe; it is also common in western Asia." http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII13.htm

The Serbian Nikola Tesla, one of the greatest scientists(Dinaric). Back to the Turks...

...they are often non-white.

Copy/paste url to enlarge:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HwkSjLb8-gQ/UsgR_qQfj7I/AAAAAAABJ4U/3PTfxSRdFp8/s1600/integra.png Usually non-white Orientalids, like these Turks above. Western Turkey is: Mediterranean/Atlanto-Mediterranean, Dinaricized Mediterranean, Dinaric and Alpine. No Armenoids in Western Turkey. Central Turkey: Armenoid, Dinaricized Mediterranean, Dinaric. North-Eastern Turkey: Exclusively Armenoid. Eastern Turkey: Irano-Afghan with a tiny minority of Middle Eastern Atlanto-Meds. See Carleton Coon's racial map: http://www.the-savoisien.com/blog/public/img8/Coon_Carleton_Stevens_The_Races_of_Europe.jpg Some western Turks who look much like Greeks.

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Greek autosomal DNA Not only is the Greek genetic legacy clearly detectible today, but it is detectible among not only the Greeks, but all their neighboring populations of partial Greek ancestry:

THE FOURTH is strongly reminiscent of Greek colonization in the first millennium B.C. http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/greekadna/ http://web.archive.org/web/20110707065327/http://racialreality.110mb.com/genetic_variation.html Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Luca_Cavalli-Sforza “Genes, peoples, and languages,” Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, Vol. 94, pp. 7719-7724, July 1997.

Read it here(in english): https://hellenicrace.freeforums.net/thread/20/origin-hellenes-demetrios-demopoulos

Διαβάστε το εδώ(στα Ελληνικά): https://enoriakapareliou.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/h-katagogi-ton-ellinon-dimitrios-dimopoulos.pdf

Διαβάστε το εδώ(στα Ελληνικά): https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9

Διαβάστε το εδώ(στα Ελληνικά): https://hellenicrace.freeforums.net/thread/6/

Διαβάστε το εδώ(στα Ελληνικά): https://hellenicrace.freeforums.net/thread/7/

Διαβάστε το εδώ(στα Ελληνικά): https://hellenicrace.freeforums.net/thread/8/

Read it here(in english): https://archive.org/details/higmc/page/n1/mode/2up